User talk:Arent

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Good work!

Man, I'm impressed your work on this wiki. Keep editing.--RobRoy (talk) 20:25, 17 February 2015 (EST)

Me too!

Thanks so much for all of your efforts on making this place look nice! I've made you an admin, so you can directly delete spam pages, edit protected pages (like the front page), and block users. If you use Virtualmin or Cloudmin (or would like to try them) I'd be happy to issue you free licenses for the Professional versions. And, if you ever need help with anything (like your Webmin deployments, or anything else, if it happens to be among my areas of expertise), don't hesitate to ask. SwellJoe (talk) 20:29, 13 March 2015 (EDT)

Appreciate it. Tnx! - Arent (talk) 19:46, 14 March 2015 (EDT)


If you don't know ImageMap extension, please let me show how to do it and you can use it. First copy link to picture from our wiki like to online map editor (you can find it here [1]) into window called "OR an image on the Internet:". Then press accept. You will see image from our wiki there. You can then make shapes on the picture (rectangle, circle or polygons) and copy coordinates to imagemap extension like I did it here [2]. More information you can find there [3]. Regards.--RobRoy (talk) 20:04, 15 March 2015 (EDT)

Imagemap I do know (more or less, didn't use it often), what I tried to accomplish was the 'external-link' appearance on sidebar - without success... - Arent (talk) 20:21, 15 March 2015 (EDT)

Request granted!

I've added the RestrictedTitle config change you've requested. I don't understand exactly what it does, but I trust you'll do good things with it. ;-) SwellJoe (talk) 21:56, 17 March 2015 (EDT)

A wiki's main page usually doesn't need the heading 'Main Page'; it is hidden now. Arent (talk) 04:40, 18 March 2015 (EDT)


I probably agree. I am learning Spanish, so thought I'd add a little bit to the wiki in hopes of seeing others pick it up. I'm not terribly worried about it staying in sync...many of these docs haven't had significant changes since me or Jamie original wrote them 12+ years ago. The number of pages changing has increased since you've been around, which is great, and popularity of the docs has been increasing, which is also great (and probably means we'll see more contributions from others). Anyway, I'd like it if we could support the most popular languages for Webmin usage (the top five are: English, German, French, Spanish, Japanese), though we don't currently have any kind of budget to make it happen. I was hoping having a couple of pages translated a little bit would inspire someone. ;-)

Anyway, I only enabled translations on a handful of pages, on the assumption that we didn't want to go overboard with it unless and until we had some people actively translating. So, if it's not too bothersome to you to have it on this small number of pages, I'll just leave it as-is and not turn it on for any other pages unless the volunteers appear. If they don't, we'll eventually give up and remove it. (Or, maybe I'll know enough Spanish by then to do the translations myself!) SwellJoe (talk) 22:15, 20 March 2015 (EDT)

Ok. I was a bit worried to see 700++ to-be-translated items:!translated&action=translate
Imo, the starting point for translations should be a more-or-less accurate set of pages. The translation tools are very powerful but seem the wrong tools at the wrong time. Arent (talk) 07:31, 21 March 2015 (EDT)

tt tag

Do you know that tt tag is obsolete in current standard of HTML5? Please avoid using it, and use code, kbd or samp tags instead. [4] --RobRoy (talk) 19:16, 22 March 2015 (EDT)

About Spam

Yeah, I noticed the crazy amount of spam; I installed a couple of extensions to help clean it up (DeleteBatch and Nuke), and have gotten rid of the ~3000 or so spams from the past few days. I also disabled creating pages for non-registered non-email-confirmed users (I think). Current access config looks like this:

# Disable for everyone.
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit']              = false;
# Disable for users, too: by default 'user' is allowed to edit, even if '*' is not.
$wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit']           = false;
# Make it so users with confirmed email addresses are in the group.
$wgAutopromote['emailconfirmed'] = APCOND_EMAILCONFIRMED;
# Hide group from user list.
$wgImplicitGroups[] = 'emailconfirmed';
# Finally, set it to true for the desired group.
$wgGroupPermissions['emailconfirmed']['edit'] = true;

$wgGroupPermissions['*'            ]['createpage'] = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['user'         ]['createpage'] = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['emailconfirmed']['createpage'] = true;

But, it seems to have not stopped them completely, so we may just need to disable new users entirely for a while.

Hmm, actually it still seems to be allowing users without email verification to create pages. Something must be wrong with me config. That change has been in place since last night, but all of the new spams today were from unconfirmed users, I think. I've added the options you suggested:

$wgEmailAuthentication = true;
$wgEmailConfirmToEdit  = true;

That's probably what I was trying to do last night, but was tired. ;-)

Are you sure that
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit']              = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit']           = false;
$wgAutopromote['emailconfirmed'] = APCOND_EMAILCONFIRMED;
$wgImplicitGroups[] = 'emailconfirmed';
$wgGroupPermissions['emailconfirmed']['edit'] = true;
is needed?
Afaik should this be sufficient:
$wgEmailAuthentication = true;
$wgEmailConfirmToEdit  = true;
$wgGroupPermissions[ '*' ]['edit']           = false;
$wgGroupPermissions[ '*' ]['createpage']     = false;
Last resort:
$wgGroupPermissions[ '*' ]['createaccount']  = false; 
Just my 2 cents - Arent (talk) 15:19, 19 March 2017 (EDT)

I don't know what's necessary. I just followed docs on the internet. ;-) --SwellJoe (talk) 15:23, 19 March 2017 (EDT)

Ok, turned off account creation for now, since a whole new batch of spam came in after I made the other changes. --SwellJoe (talk) 15:26, 19 March 2017 (EDT)